THE NUTRIVORE

•  

Debate Dodgers

Proposition Abbreviations:

1. Pro, Nick affirms the proposition is true.

2. Con, Nick affirms the proposition is false.

3. Agn, Nick takes no position on the proposition (further clarification required)

 

Adam Singer

Social: @AdamSinger

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition: failed to state position clearly.

​

Amber O'Hearn

Social: @KetoCarnivore

Dodges:

1. Discussion invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition: failed to state position clearly.

 

Ann Childers

Social: @AnnChildersMD

Dodges:

1. Engaged in written debate via X and repeatedly dodged when pressed for specifics.

   • Proposition (Agn): "diets humans thrived on in the wild, sans dentists and doctors, are correct."

​

Anthony Gustin

Social: @dranthonygustin

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation accepted via X with no follow-up.

   • Proposition (Pro): "seed oils are not a significant, independent risk factor for public health."

​

Ashwani Garg

Social: @agargmd

Dodges:

1. Engaged in written debate via X and repeatedly dodged when cornered.

   • Proposition (Pro): "representing the protein content of beans by dry weight is misleading."

​

Bart Kay

Social: @Bart_WT_Kay

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation declined via email.

   • Proposition (Agn): "a 100% Carnivore diet is the appropriate and best health choice for all people."

2. Debate invitation accepted via email with no follow-up.

   • Proposition (Agn): "a 100% Carnivore diet is the appropriate and best health choice for all people."

​

Ben Bikman

Social: @BenBikmanPhD

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "the diet-heart hypothesis is false."

 

Benny Malone

Social: @bennymaloneUK

Dodges:

1. Engaged in written debate via X and dodged when pressed for specifics.

   • Proposition (Pro): "eating oysters is compatible with veganism."

​

Brad Campbell

Social: @DrBradCampbell

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "canola oil kills you slowly."

​

Brian Kateman

Social: @BrianKateman

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation accepted and subsequently declined via email.

   • Proposition (Con): "being vegan is impossible."

​

Brian Kerley

Social: @SeedOilDsrspctr

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Pro): "seed oils are not a significant, independent risk factor for public health."

2. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Pro): "seed oils are not a significant, independent risk factor for public health."

​

Carnivore Aurelius

Social: @AlpacaAurelius

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Agn): "vegans kill 100x more animals."

​

Cate Shanahan

Social: @drcateshanahan

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "seed oils are pro-inflammatory."

2. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "those who defend seed oils are just regurgitating the garbage that the AHA pumps out."

3. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "seed oils are toxic."

4. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "current levels of seed oil consumption are the main driver of the obesity and chronic disease."

5. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "Nick is just following the AHA marching orders."

6. Debate accepted via X and presumed retracted.

   • Proposition (Pro): "seed oils are not a significant, independent risk factor for public health."

7. Debate invitation declined via email.

   • Proposition (Pro): "seed oils are not a significant, independent risk factor for public health."

8. All further debate invitations presumed to be preemptively declined via X.

   • Proposition (Pro): "seed oils are not a significant, independent risk factor for public health."

​

Clemens Zsófia

Social: @ClemensZsofia

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   1. Proposition: failed to state position clearly.

​

Cliff Harvey

Social: @CarbAppropriate

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation accepted via email and later declined via X.

   • Proposition (Con): "saturated fat in the diet does not independently increase the risk of mortality."

2. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "saturated fat in the diet does not independently increase the risk of mortality."

​

Dave Feldman

Social: @realDaveFeldman

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation conditionally accepted via X and later declined.

   • Proposition: failed to state position clearly.

​

David Diamond

Social: @LDLSkeptic

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation declined via X.

   • Proposition (Con): "statin therapy is not warranted for a person high LDL-C on a low-carb diet."

2. All further debate invitations preemptively declined via X.

   • Proposition (Con): "statin therapy is not warranted for a person high LDL-C on a low-carb diet."

​

David Gornoski

Social: @DavidGornoski

Dodges:

1. Debate declined via X.

   • Proposition (Con): "polyunsaturated fatty acids cause obesity."

​

Diana Rodgers

Social: @sustainabledish

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via Instagram and presumed declined due to being deleted.

   • Proposition (Con): "saturated fat doesn't increase the risk of coronary heart disease."

​

Edward Goeke

Social: @GoekeEddie

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "seed oils are inflammatory."

2. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "seed oils are inflammatory."

​

Elie Jarrouge

Social: @ElieJarrougeMD

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "sugar, refined carbs, and seed oils are poison."

​

Gary Taubes

Social: @garytaubes

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation declined via X.

   • Proposition (Agn): "carbohydrates cause starvation."

​

Ivor Cummins

Social: @FatEmperor

Dodges

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "LDL does not cause coronary heart disease."

2. Debate invitation declined via X.

   • Proposition (Con): "LDL does not cause coronary heart disease."

​

Jake Mey

Social: @CakeNutrition

Dodges:

1. Engaged in written debate via X and dodged when cornered.

   • Proposition (Con): "Vegan Friday meals are unhealthy for children."

2. Debate invitation declined via X.

   • Proposition (Con): "Vegan Friday meals are unhealthy for children."

3. Imaginary debate invite preemptively declined via X.

   • Proposition (Con): "Vegan Friday meals are unhealthy for children."

​

James DiNicolantonio

Social: @drjamesdinic

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Pro): "dietary linoleic acid is not a significant, independent concern for the development of chronic diseases."

Justin Mares

Social: @jwmares

Dodges:

1. Engaged in written debate via X and dodged when pressed for specifics.

   • Proposition (Con): "vegetable oils drive inflammation and are causally linked to weight gain and diseases of inflammation."

​

Joseph Everett

Social: @JEverettLearned

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "seed oils cause coronary heart disease and cancer."

2. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "seed oils cause coronary heart disease and cancer."

​

Kait Malthaner

Social: @healthcoachkait

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "omega-6 is pro-inflammatory."

​

Kem Minnick

Social: @kemminnick

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation accepted via X with no follow-up.

   • Proposition (Pro): "Seed oils are not a significant, independent concern for the development of chronic diseases."

2. Engaged in written debate via X and blocked when cornered.

   • Proposition (Pro): "Seed oils are not a significant, independent concern for the development of chronic diseases."

​

Ken Berry
Social: @KenDBerryMD
Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "type 2 diabetes is chronic carbohydrate overdose."

2. Debate invitation extended and dodged via X.

   • Proposition (Agn): "replacing animal fats with vegetable oils is dangerous."

3. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Agn): "replacing animal fats with vegetable oils is dangerous."

​

Kevin Stock

Social: @kevinstock12

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition: failed to state position clearly.

2. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "saturated fat does not cause cardiovascular disease."

​

Kyle Mamounis

Social: @Nutricrinology

Dodges:

1. Engaged in written debate via X but disengaged once cornered.

   • Proposition (Con): "statins do not prevent cardiovascular events."

​

Mark Sisson

Social: @Mark_Sisson

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition: failed to state position clearly.

​

Marty Kendall

Social: @martykendall2

Dodges:

1. Engaged in written debate via X and blocked when cornered.

   • Proposition (Con): "to access your body fat, you need to deplete both glucose and fat from the blood first."

 

Max Lugavere

Social: @maxlugavere

Dodges:

1. Engaged in written debate via X and dodged when pressed for specifics.

   • Proposition (Con): "seed oils consumption is associated with an increased risk of CVD and Alzheimer's disease."

2. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "seed oils consumption is associated with an increased risk of CVD and Alzheimer's disease."

3. Debate invitation declined via X.

   • Proposition (Con): "seed oils consumption is associated with an increased risk of CVD and Alzheimer's disease."

​

Michael Kummer

Social: @mkummer82

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation declined via X.

   • Proposition (Con): "polyunsaturated fats cause cell damage, inflammation and metabolic dysfunction."

​

Michael Manderville

Social: @MikeManderville

Dodges:

1. Engaged in written debate via X and dodged when pressed for specifics.

   • Proposition (Pro): "a logically coherent position will have logically coherent answer to a logically coherent hypothetical."

​

Mike Mutzel

Social: @MikeMutzel

Dodges:

1. Challenged an egregious assertion and was ignored.

   • Proposition (Con): "COVID is nothing more than a cold to those that are healthy."

2. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "there is little to no association between saturated fat and cardiovascular disease."

​

Mike Sweeney

Social: @thelowcarb_rd

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation declined via X.

   • Proposition (Agn): "vegan diets are nowhere near appropriate for the average person in society."

2. Debate invitation accepted via X with no followup.

   • Proposition (Agn): "statistical gymnastics don't inform on real world mechanisms and hard outcomes."

3. Debate invitation extended via X and presumed declined due to blocking.

   • Proposition (Con): "Cheerios cause nausea, vomiting, seizures, irregular heartbeat, liver damage, and coma."

​

Nick Eggleton

Social: @NickEggleton

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation declined via X.

   • Proposition (Agn): "polyunsaturated fats are poison."

​

Nina Teicholz

Social: @bigfatsurprise

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Agn): "the science linking red meat to heart disease is very weak."

2. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Pro): "the available evidence supports limiting saturated fat intake for coronary heart disease risk reduction."

3. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Agn): "vegans pretend biology isn't real."

​

Norstrong Chris

Social: @NNMChris

Dodges:

1. Engaged in written debate via X and repeatedly dodged when cornered.

   • Proposition (Agn): "government funded USDA data is untrustworthy."

2. Debate invitation declined via X.

   • Proposition (Agn): "nutrition science as a whole is shit."

3. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Agn): "nutrition science as a whole is shit."

​

Paul Mason

Social: @DrPaulMason

Dodges:

1. Nominated for debate with no follow-up.

   • Proposition: failed to state position clearly.

2. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Agn): "Ancel Keys' Seven Countries Study was flawed."

3. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Pro): "dietary linoleic acid is not a significant, independent concern for the development of chronic diseases."

​

Paul Saladino

Social: @paulsaladinomd

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Agn): "subsidies for corn and soy are huge contributors to the chronic disease epidemic in the US."

2. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Pro): "seed oils are not a significant, independent risk factor for public health."

3. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Agn): "to exclude animal foods from the human diet is a nutritional catastrophe."

4. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Agn): "to exclude animal foods from the human diet is a nutritional catastrophe."

5. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Pro): "nutritional epidemiology generally provides good causal estimates."

6. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Agn): "linoleic acid wreaks havoc in your body."

​

Philip Ovadia

Social: @ifixhearts

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Agn): "sugar is the problem and meat is the solution."

2. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "LDL doesn't cause coronary heart disease because it is just part of the arterial repair process."

​

Philippe Stephenson

Social: @TotalCytopath

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Pro): "seed oils save lives."

 

Ralph Napolitano

Social: @DrRalphNap

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "oatmeal is one of the worst foods you can eat and has no health benefits."

​

Raphael Sirtoli

Social: @raphaels7

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation declined via X.

   • Proposition (Con): "the diet-heart hypothesis is false."

2. All further debate invitations preemptively declined via X.

   • Proposition (Pro): "seed oils are not a significant, independent risk factor for public health."

​

Rob Meijer

Social: @EngineerDiet

Dodges:

1. Engaged in written debate via X and repeatedly dodged when pressed for specifics.

   • Proposition: failed to state position clearly.

​

Robb Wolf

Social: @robbwolf

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation declined via X.

   • Proposition (Pro): "ancestral foods are more likely to be antagonistically pleiotropic than novel foods."

​

Travis Statham

Social: @Travis_Statham

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via Reddit and ignored.

   • Proposition (Pro): "seed oils do not cause obesity."

2. Debate invitation extended via Reddit with no response.

   • Proposition (Pro): "seed oils do not cause obesity."

​

Tristan Haggard

Social: @Trxstxn4

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X and presumed declined due to repeated dodges.

   • Proposition (Agn): "seed oils are toxic."

​

Tro Kalayjian

Social: @DoctorTro

Dodges:

1. Engaged in written debate via X and dodged repeatedly before blocking.

   • Proposition (Pro): "Dr. Tho engages in shitty behaviour that causes people to dislike him."

​

Tucker Goodrich

Social: @TuckerGoodrich

Dodges:

1. Engaged in written debate via X and blocked when cornered.

   • Proposition (Con): "nutritional epidemiology is almost always wrong."

2. Debate invitation accepted via X and subsequently declined before blocking.

   • Proposition: failed to state position clearly.

3. Debate invitation declined via X.

   • Proposition: failed to state position clearly.

4. All further debate invitations preemptively declined via X.

   • Proposition: failed to state position clearly.

​

Zoe Harcombe

Social: @zoeharcombe

Dodges:

1. Debate invitation extended via X with no response.

   • Proposition (Con): "saturated fat doesn't increase the risk of coronary heart disease."